Buying a used Witcomb bicycles
We've had a lot of people recently asking about used or second hand Witcombs, and also for information on other bicycles we used to produce. On a scout around the internet we've seen a few fakes and impostors out there, together with some great bargains.
So here is a quick guide to buying our brands from ebay, gumtree or in person.
Witcomb frames:
Firstly, does it have a serial number? Witcomb numbers are always stamped on the underside of the bottom bracket shell, they fall into three categories:
WIT or W1 before the number: Congratulations, it is a bespoke, custom made Witcomb from before 1990.
W then the number, this will be a handmade 'off the peg' frame, still made by us and still a Witcomb, but it was made for sale in another bicycle store.
No W just numbers. This is where our archives help. Every bicycle produced will have a six digit code, we can match this in our archives and give you a history. If not, then it is not a real Witcomb. -We do no charge for archive enquires.
Not all Witcomb bicycles are steel, there are a few MTB Witcombs from the 1980s which are Alloy and ten carbon fibre ones from 2000-2002, these are very rare, but also not a good investment due to the materials used being 'short-term' bicycle frames.
On average expect to pay between £150 and £700 for a frame, the most valuable being our limited editions: Giro, L'aviner, USA, Tour de France, and more recent editions. Prices for complete bicycles are very similar.
We do strongly recomend emailing or calling in with the serial number to check authenticity against our database. (Well, database for 2000 onwards, books and archives for 1949 onwards.)
If you discover a Witcomb Flyer, Witcomb Legend, or Thomas Witcomb, then your very lucky! We will buy this from you, they are all dated before 1949 as we have no records. They would have been made by Thomas Witcomb, Malcom Barker or Bill Hurlow. So far we only know of one example of a Thomas Witcomb from this period now privately owned in Japan.
Other frames:
We also carry a few other brands in our archives, these are other bicycle shops, brands, or exporters we made bicycles for:
Condition
Focus more on the steel work, not the paint, a respray will cost around £115, and will bring it up as good as new, but the frame must be in good order to achieve this.
There are a few things to look out for with old steel frames. Problem areas tend to be around the seat-posts and rear stays. Are they attached ok, is there any cracking in the enamel where they join, do they move?
There are lots of "fixed wheel" frames out there, one tip from Barry is to check it really is a fixed wheel, and has horizontal drop-outs which open to the rear of the frame. Also check they are attached properly, there are a few road to track frame conversions which have used silver instead of brass brazing to join older steels.
We are often able to advise and help you in your purchase, or if you are selling a Witcomb let us know and we'll feature it on our blog to help.
So here is a quick guide to buying our brands from ebay, gumtree or in person.
Witcomb frames:
Firstly, does it have a serial number? Witcomb numbers are always stamped on the underside of the bottom bracket shell, they fall into three categories:
WIT or W1 before the number: Congratulations, it is a bespoke, custom made Witcomb from before 1990.
W then the number, this will be a handmade 'off the peg' frame, still made by us and still a Witcomb, but it was made for sale in another bicycle store.
No W just numbers. This is where our archives help. Every bicycle produced will have a six digit code, we can match this in our archives and give you a history. If not, then it is not a real Witcomb. -We do no charge for archive enquires.
Not all Witcomb bicycles are steel, there are a few MTB Witcombs from the 1980s which are Alloy and ten carbon fibre ones from 2000-2002, these are very rare, but also not a good investment due to the materials used being 'short-term' bicycle frames.
On average expect to pay between £150 and £700 for a frame, the most valuable being our limited editions: Giro, L'aviner, USA, Tour de France, and more recent editions. Prices for complete bicycles are very similar.
We do strongly recomend emailing or calling in with the serial number to check authenticity against our database. (Well, database for 2000 onwards, books and archives for 1949 onwards.)
If you discover a Witcomb Flyer, Witcomb Legend, or Thomas Witcomb, then your very lucky! We will buy this from you, they are all dated before 1949 as we have no records. They would have been made by Thomas Witcomb, Malcom Barker or Bill Hurlow. So far we only know of one example of a Thomas Witcomb from this period now privately owned in Japan.
Other frames:
We also carry a few other brands in our archives, these are other bicycle shops, brands, or exporters we made bicycles for:
- Baren or Barren
- E.A. Boult (our sister company until 1954, these are technically Witcomb frames)
- Herne Hill track frames (at various dates)
- Hetchins (1960-64 in small quantities)
- Holdsworth (in small quantities at various times)
- Raleigh (1958-1960 a small number were made)
- Rotrax (from 1956 onwards)
- Sid Mottram (also made by Mercian at times)
- Sunshine Cycles
- Witcomb
- Witcomb Shopper
- Witcomb USA
- Vanguard
- Velocity
- Velosport
- Youngs (London)
Condition
Focus more on the steel work, not the paint, a respray will cost around £115, and will bring it up as good as new, but the frame must be in good order to achieve this.
There are a few things to look out for with old steel frames. Problem areas tend to be around the seat-posts and rear stays. Are they attached ok, is there any cracking in the enamel where they join, do they move?
There are lots of "fixed wheel" frames out there, one tip from Barry is to check it really is a fixed wheel, and has horizontal drop-outs which open to the rear of the frame. Also check they are attached properly, there are a few road to track frame conversions which have used silver instead of brass brazing to join older steels.
We are often able to advise and help you in your purchase, or if you are selling a Witcomb let us know and we'll feature it on our blog to help.
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